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Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
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  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Please do...

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Suggesting updates

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Archives

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Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

Sections

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


December 29

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Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections


(Posted) Jeju Air Flight 2216

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Article: Jeju Air Flight 2216 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Jeju Air Boeing 737-800 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, after hitting a fence while attempting to land with 47 casualties reported out of 181 passengers on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 47 people are killed when a Jeju Air plane carrying 181 passengers crashed at Muan International Airport in South Korea.
Alternative blurb II: Jeju Air Flight 2216 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, killing at least 47.
News source(s): (Bloomberg)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I think it needs a bit of work.

Absolutely three deadly crashes within a month. QalasQalas (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Georgian constitutional crisis

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Article: 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated and Salome Zourabichvili claiming to remain President. (Post)
Alternative blurb: 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated while Salome Zourabichvili says she remains President.
News source(s): Al Jazeera; The Guardian; Associated Press; BBC
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Nominator's comments: The 2024 Georgian post-election protests that have accompanied this crisis have been ongoing daily for two months with the biggest participation estimated at around 100,000 people - several percent of the total Georgian population. Boud (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The expression "claiming that" is a bit WP:WEASELly; and Salome Zourabichvili stating that she retains her legitimacy as President would be more neutral, avoiding the connotation that Wikipedia is sceptical about her POV. I've added altblurb which seems less weaselly to me. Boud (talk) 11:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing? The nomination is not clear whether it's proposing this as an ongoing entry. Many other places have ongoing political tensions and rivalries so I reckon we need some big incident or civil war for this to stand out. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The event itself - the overall crisis - is ongoing, but the Western mainstream media news coverage is not intense enough to justify ongoing in the ITN sense. This is not a proposal for ITN "Ongoing". In terms of the wording, it would be inaccurate to suggest that today's inauguration was a sudden crisis - it's a key symbolic event within the overall crisis - so "continuing" in the blurb is accurate. Boud (talk) 12:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Definitely has more encyclopedic value than the electoral college vote a few weeks earlier. Depending on how the world reacts, it could be a repeat of the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. Scaramouche33 (talk) 13:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 28

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RD: Kari Dziedzic

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Article: Kari Dziedzic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Minnesota Public Radio [1]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sitting Minnesota state senator and former majority leader, hoping to expand the article a little/add electoral history and more details about political work, but also want to make sure we can clean up any issues with citations etc. that I didn’t catch. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 14:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charles Dolan

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Article: Charles Dolan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American billionaire businessman, founder of Cablevision and HBO. 240F:7A:6253:1:9DCE:E014:DC2:B389 (talk) 07:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 27

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RD: Charlie Maxwell

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Article: Charlie Maxwell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American baseball outfielder (1947-1964), an All-Star in 1956 and 1957, known as "Sunday Charlie" and "The Sabbath Slugger" for his propensity to hit home runs on Sundays Cbl62 (talk) 23:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Olivia Hussey

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Article: Olivia Hussey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British-Argentine actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:C85F:CD98:861D:B7DF (talk) 03:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Greg Gumbel

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Article: Greg Gumbel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American sportscaster who called N.F.L. and N.C.A.A. games for CBS. Thriley (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support First African-American sportscaster to call the Super Bowl. SigKauffman54 (talk) 16:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not relevant here, only article quality is. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:39, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kamal Adwan hospital burning

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israeli troops attack the Kamal Adwan hospital, the last one remaining in the northern Gaza Strip, forcing its staff and patients to leave (Post)
News source(s): Al-Jazeera, Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I know there's a daily tragedy in the Israel-Hamas war, but this is significant development given that its the last functioning one in northern Gaza Strip and hospitals have been a critical lifeline for Gazans. Further, burning down much of the hospital[1] is fairly unprecedented even in this brutal war. Feel free to suggest alternative blurbs. VR (Please ping on reply) 20:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) Impeachment of Han Duck-soo

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Articles: Impeachment of Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag) and Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly and is succeeded by Choi Sang-mok.
News source(s): BBC News, Reuters, South Korea National Assembly E-law Library KWNews (in Korean)
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Impeachement of Acting President of South Korea is unprecedented, and deputy prime minister will be both acting President and acting Prime Minister will also unprecedented. I also feel that we may need an ongoing article title like "2024-2025 South Korea Political Crisis" Haers6120 (talk) 06:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Han seems accept National Assembly's decision [2]. Haers6120 (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's ITNR, because Han was explicitly only the acting president, and is in his turn only suspended and not deposed. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well the nom is listed as such and I don't think our ITNR rules for heads of state/government (state leaders) have ever been that granular to exclude such changes [of acting versus normally elected/appointed].
Also, I think we need to appreciate the difference between those countries where single state leaders hold effective power (South Korea) versus where where power distribution maybe more shared (France, Germany that have been cited here). Gotitbro (talk) 15:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Clearly the first impeachment following the attempt to declare martial law was major. Following that impeachment and resignation, the role of acting president fell to the PM, which was not meant to be a long-term determination. This impeaching is a result of more political infighting, and nothing specifically that Duck-soo did, and far less impactful than the original impeachment. Its basically a game of partisan musical chairs, since now the finance minister becomes next in line as acting president. --Masem (t) 13:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb Notable event. Han is the first acting president is the country's history to be impeached. This is a significant update from the fallout of the martial law crisis. Also, the altblurb is best as it illustrates the change in power so to speak. Article is in good shape too. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - While this is significant, it's part of the continuing crisis. As Andrew notes correctly, France and Germany are also both experiencing unstable government at the moment, and we're not posting blow-by-blow accounts of those to ITN, but only the substantive changes at the top. South Korea's situation, while a bit more volatile, is broadly similar. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • France and Germany are bad analogies in this case, not least because South Korea's case already involves an attempted self-coup and two impeachments. Though I ultimately agree that a third blurb about largely the same crisis might be too much, there may be merit in instead adding this to Ongoing (if it can be maintained). Yo.dazo (talk) 16:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is another major and unprecedented development in a situation that has already proven itself to be blurb-worthy on at least 2 occasions Rahcmander (talk) 16:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support For this is unprecedented situation and technically change of head of state. Would oppose another impeachment (which is probable in less than a week) as per Andrew. Didgogns (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. The Kip (contribs) 18:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nobody saw this coming This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk)
  • Comment This is an extension of the initial coup. The root cause for both, is that for some reason I can't fathom, having a solid majority in the Parliament, doesn't give you any control of the government. Similar to the issues in the USA, but without the ability of the Parliament to pass legislation, or change the speaker. For some reason the party controlling the presidency and PM believe that letting the other party into power is some existential crisis - hence the extremes they'll go to (first illegally, and now legally). This will continue until a presidential election is triggered. I have no doubt the new acting President will be impeached quickly if he doesn't approve the nominations to the constitutional court. Perhaps South Korean Constitutional Crisis or something should be an ongoing? Nfitz (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there news coverage of the events of this happening near daily? Not really. Just because two events have happened within a month apart doesn't make it an ongoing story, and the ongoing line is far too busy as it is right now to add anything else, particularly something that isn't having near-daily stories. Masem (t) 04:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support: This is just a greater part of the coup attempt by Yoon, but something I didn't see coming. TansoShoshen (talk) 10:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Admins willing to post ITN: I see consensus to post here. (I am of course far too involved to do it myself.) charlotte 👸🎄 20:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there's consensus. May I suggest that we wait half a day or so? I've just posted the Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse and it sits in the bottom slot. If we were to post this item now, it'll nuke the bridge article after only a few minutes. Schwede66 20:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with me. charlotte 👸🎄 20:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I didn't see this conversation before posting the Jeju crash up. The bridge collapse wasn't removed as today's Featured Article slot is just a tad longer. I am uncertain if we want to post up Han's image as it will be adjacent to the plane crash blurb. – robertsky (talk) 04:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 26

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RD: John B. Cobb

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Article: John B. Cobb (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Claremont School of Theology
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American theologian, philosopher and environmentalist. Death announced 27 December. Thriley (talk) 01:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: Manmohan Singh

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Article: Manmohan Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former Prime Minister of India Manmohan Singh (pictured) dies at the age of 92 (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Times of India
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Potential blurb, but he's not sitting, so at least RD. Sportsnut24 (talk) 16:40, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 25

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[REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED] RD: Jax Dane

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Article: Jax Dane (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestling Observer - Figure Four Online, Fightful, NWA
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American professional wrestler. Still needs a few citations, but honestly in pretty good shape compared to most wrestlers' articles. The Kip (contribs) 18:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Osamu Suzuki (businessman)

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Article: Osamu Suzuki (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://apnews.com/article/japan-suzuki-motor-india-495bf88bbc55c2e96faa447a5b5806f0
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Japanese businessman, chairman of Suzuki Motor Corporation. --14:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

[REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED] RD: Paul Abine Ayah

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Article: Paul Abine Ayah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Actu Cameroun
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Cameroonian lawyer and politician. Jmanlucas (talk) 02:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 Estlink 2 incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The submarine power cable Estlink 2 is damaged by an oil tanker suspected of belonging to Russia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Finnish police take over oil tanker Eagle S, suspected of damaging submarine power cable Estlink 2.
News source(s): https://yle.fi/a/74-20133526
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Nominator's comments: I'll try to combine https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eagle_S_on_the_map_of_MarineTraffic,_in_relation_to_the_Estlink_2_incident.png with the cropped version of the Estlink map if I get a chance to do so. A significant event mentioned in multiple international news sources. NotAGenious (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bill Bergey

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Article: Bill Bergey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American football player Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: M. T. Vasudevan Nair

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Article: M. T. Vasudevan Nair (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express BBCThe Indian Express Independent Gulf news Khaleej times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Renowned Malayalam writer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:30, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243

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Article: Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (aircraft pictured) crashes near Aktau, Kazakhstan with 67 people on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (aircraft pictured) crashes near Aktau, Kazakhstan, killing 39 people.
News source(s): BBC The Guardian Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: A few dozen have been reported dead as a result of the crash. Tofusaurus (talk) 09:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Surprised this isn't already up. A significant crash. ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 13:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
QalasQalas (talk) 16:45, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 24

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[REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED] RD: Dorthy Moxley

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Article: Dorthy Moxley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American educator and crime victim advocate. TJMSmith (talk) 22:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joe Average

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Article: Joe Average (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CTV News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian artist and activist. Ktin (talk) 16:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Parker Solar Probe

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Article: Parker Solar Probe (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Parker Solar Probe (pictured) successfully completes its closest approach to the Sun (Post)
News source(s): DW, Guardian, NYT, Scientific American, BBC, Space
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We might also mention that it will be travelling at 430,000 miles per hour – a new speed record. But it's stormy as it's a solar maximum... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Still personally determining on notability, but oppose on quality - a two-sentence update to the lead is not enough to post. The Kip (contribs) 09:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is already quite large and detailed but I've added an update about the timing of this perihelion to the body. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support now - article sufficiently updated and other comments have made good cases as to scientific notability. The Kip (contribs) 23:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, as notable a solar space mission as you can get without landing. At least so far. Maybe post on the 27th when Parker is scheduled to send back information. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FYI, the perihelion is today (Christmas Eve) around noon UTC. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Right, but we won't even know if it has survived the approach until the 27th. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The perihelion is today and it's in the news today. As and when we get further news, we can update the blurb accordingly. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I know, and if it were just you and I the blurb would be up already. Thanks for improving the article. Maybe a few others will come by and push this quickly over the finish line. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure how to intervene on this as I'm a new to ITN and don't want to break it :) The BBC cite notes that the temperatures that close will reach 1,400 °C and it will be moving faster than any other human-made object (692,000 kilometers per hour; 430,000 miles per hour). Maybe also something on how it has to act autonomously to ensure it is oriented in such as way that its shields protect it from the solar energy. At that distance from Earth, it would take about 8 minutes for a signal to get there and another 8 for it to be received: too slow for Earth-based control. Andi Fugard [they/them] (talk) 11:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FYI, what's wanted mainly here are opinions whether we should post this news on the main page. These should focus mainly on the adequacy of the quality of the article. The blurb wording is open to discussion too and alternatives can be proposed. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not an ITNR, it has been in this close orbit of the sun for the last several years, just that this time it will swing closer than any previous time. Masem (t) 13:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, this is not a stable orbit. What's been happening is that it has been making repeated flybys of Venus to pick up speed using gravity assistance. It made its seventh and final flyby of Venus in November and this gave it the speed for this closest approach to the Sun, which goes deep past the Alfvén surface. It is therefore the climax of a long mission and so is effectively the destination as it's downhill from here. And note that, while we posted the launch of the mission in 2018, we haven't posted a destination blurb yet. The mainstream coverage such as this BBC bulletin indicates that this is the time to post as it talks of the event "making history". Andrew🐉(talk) 14:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This pass by the sun is at 6.9M km, last year it got to 7.3M km, which on the order of magnitude of space, essentially the same. Its clear it reached its final destination, this unstable orbit between the sun and venus, four years or so ago. This is not ITNR, but note I'm not saying that this can't be considered as a normal ITNC candidate due to attention on being it's closest approach. Masem (t) 15:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is wrong. It flies by Venus to slow down. If it slowed to zero it'd then fall straight down starting at 1 mph per dozens of seconds ending at c. 0.1% the speed of light (if it could survive till the visible surface I assume no). If it slowed down a little less than that it does this. Also in 2025 they'll point it at the Sun exposing it to tens of thousands percent sunlight killing everything except the shader in seconds. Especially if it can briefly transmit through that (I don't know) that seems like another interesting time (science fiction like Sunshine (2007 film) becoming science fact). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good points. The gravity assists from Venus were used to make its orbit more eccentric and this gives the closer approach to the sun and that's when its speed is greater.
    I also wondered what was going to happen to the probe afterwards and so added a paragraph to the article to explain.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 07:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. Its final flyby is scheduled for June 19, 2025. That seems to be the most appropriate time to post, not the two incidental records being set tomorrow. (Which records, by the way, will not be broken by Parker's remaining flybys.) 128.91.40.237 (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until the December 27 confirmation. ArionStar (talk) 06:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I Support now. ArionStar (talk) 13:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It was noteworthy enough for BBC top story status, and it'll be interesting to see if it survived on the 27th. For heliophysics this is a major, decades-long effort, and it won't be so close to the surface of the Sun ever again. ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 13:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, as the sources said it's an important milestone, and it is now in the news. Alexcalamaro (talk) 07:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, an interesting event that's been compared to the Moon landing, and an interesting article as well. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update It's Dec 27 now and the probe's beacon signal has been received, showing that it has successfully completed its closest pass through the solar corona. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • How is this ITNR? It's been orbiting the Sun for years. Banedon (talk) 09:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The destination was not to orbit the sun – we're all doing that – but to make this closest approach which was just achieved for the first time. This took it deep inside the solar corona and Alfvén surface so that it could make the observations which were its mission. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, its destination was this series of tight orbits around the Sun with some Venus flybys, which it reached 6-some years ago and has been doing since. It was inside the corona and broke the Alfven surface as early as 2021 [10]. That this one orbit reached the closest approach to the sun does not make its destination. — Masem (t) 13:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Important achievement for humanity and now in the news. Article well-sourced and informative. Opposers fail to convince that this should not be posted now. Jusdafax (talk) 15:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support definitely in the news now and has been confirmed. Meets WP:ITNSIGNIF and WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. In the news. Important event. Sufficiently updated article.
-insert valid name here- (talk) 18:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD or Blurb: Dési Bouterse

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Article: Dési Bouterse (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former military ruler and later president of Suriname, Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age 79 while on the run following his conviction (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former Suriname's leader and convicted criminal Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age of 79
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former military ruler and later president of Suriname, Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age of 79
News source(s): NLTimes, AP News
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former president of Suriname240F:7A:6253:1:41AE:341:4940:BDA3 (talk) 03:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Petak

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Article: George Petak (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: American Republican politician Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Richard Perry

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Article: Richard Perry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article needs help, but it was announced today that Richard Perry had died. He was best known for his work as a producer for artists like Carly Simon (No Secrets and "You're So Vain"), Ringo Starr (Ringo (album) and "Photograph (Ringo Starr song)" and "You're Sixteen") and along with owning Planet Records, launching The Pointer Sisters with "Fire (Bruce Springsteen song)", "Neutron Dance", "I'm So Excited", "Slow Hand" and "Jump (For My Love)". He also had other credits with many other artists. TheCorriynial (talk) 02:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 23

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RD: Michael Burkard

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Article: Michael Burkard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Academy of American Poets; Nightboat.org
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Article is Start class, but it is well-cited and sourced and updated. It meets the minimum BLP requirements and is Ready to post on ITN, imo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trauma Novitiate (talkcontribs)

RD: Sophie Hediger

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Article: Sophie Hediger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Article currently a stub, needs major expansion. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shyam Benegal

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Article: Shyam Benegal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian filmmaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Article is in good shape. Deserves attention. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 18:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 22

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Ho Chi Minh City's first metro line opens

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Article: HCMC Metro (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ho Chi Minh City's first metro line begins operations (Post)
News source(s): VN Express Bloomberg
Credits:

Article updated

 Banedon (talk) 08:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support on quality and notability. Article could stand to be a bit more updated but is pretty good where it is now. I really think we ought to post more blurbs that aren't disasters, space missions, and geopolitics, and this is a good alternative. Departure– (talk) 13:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Gramado Piper PA-42 crash

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Article: 2024 Gramado Piper PA-42 crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: A plane crash in Brazil's Gramado kills 10 people and injures 17 others. (Post)
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(Posted) Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse

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Article: Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least eleven people die and 6 others are missing after a bridge partially collapses (pictured) between the states of Tocantins and Maranhão in Brazil. (Post)
Alternative blurb: In two consecutive days, a traffic collision, a plane crash and a bridge collapse occur in Brazil and result in a total of at least 62 deaths.
News source(s): (Reuters) (BBC)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Deadly structural collapses like 2024 Lixinsha Bridge collapse and this one needs more attention on ITN. Events coverage on en-wiki is so American-European-developed countries-biased. Let's change it! ArionStar (talk) 18:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose low death toll and seemingly local/very limited impact. The Kip (contribs) 21:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There is no article for the bridge itself, yet there are detailed articles in Portuguese and German. I could not find articles in other languages about the collapse. I wonder whether the scope of this article should be broadened to include the bridge itself to align it with the two articles that exist in other languages. Such a change in scope would not prevent the article from consideration at ITN. Schwede66 23:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Gee, it seems we've had a lot of transport-related disasters in Brazil the past few days. Would it be best to merge them all into a single blurb? Departure– (talk) 23:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, like: "In two consecutive days, a traffic collision, a plane crash and a bridge collapse occur in Brazil and result in a total of at least 57 people died." ArionStar (talk) 01:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, they’re completely unrelated so we wouldn’t have a combination blurb. Stephen 03:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure last year we had two unrelated tornado outbreaks in the United States get a combined blurb. I don't see how this is much different - multiple major events involving transit and traffic causing a similar amount of fatalities all occurring in the same country, each with merits to their own blurb. Departure– (talk) 04:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's reasonable to combine two separate tornado outbreaks that occurred with a few days if each other as long as the blurb does not imply they were the same weather system. But combining several completely unrelated disasters simply due to bear term and location is not appropriate — Masem (t) 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Qamruddin Ahmad Gorakhpuri

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Article: Qamruddin Ahmad Gorakhpuri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Asr-e-Hazir, Millat Times, Eastern Crescent
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Article updated
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An Indian Muslim scholar and a professor of Hadith at Darul Uloom Deoband. Khaatir (talk) 08:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ Ferguson, Dana (December 28, 2024). "Kari Dziedzic, former Minnesota Senate Majority Leader, dies at 62". Retrieved December 29, 2024.